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Pre-order? PC, PS4, or XboxOne?

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Posted On: 11/16/2013 at 06:19 AM
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So who is going to play on a PC, and who is going to play on a console?

I'm thinking about putting my pre-order in, just to cross it off my list of things to do :)

If you play this on a console, will you still connect in-game with those on a PC?  (Historically, console MMO's i've beta tested do not let you cross platform interact).

Last Edited on: 11/16/2013 at 06:22 AM
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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 06:35 AM PST
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From this recent interview, it does not look like cross platform play will be supported.  Our official chapter will be the PC/Mac version:

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a509582/gamescom-2013-elder-scrolls-online-wont-support-cross-platform-play.html

In an interview with Digital Spy, Zenimax Studios developer Brian Wheeler revealed that the game would support cross-platform play on PC and Mac, but not on Xbox One and PS4.

Wheeler also explained that there are certain challenges that must be overcome when developing the game for consoles.

"If you talk to any developer that's ever done anything on a console, they'll tell you that certification is difficult.

"It's just a matter of making sure that we want to put forward the best product that we can possibly put forth, and then after that, making sure that we get everything certified properly with Sony, with Microsoft, and making sure that they're happy with the product.

"We don't want to compromise anything in terms of how it looks, how it controls, how it plays, so that's definitely going to be a challenge, making sure that the experience is great on all four of the platforms."



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Personally, I'm holding out for a PC Collector's Edition and also hope there will be a digital download.

I like it when they release the Collector's as digital so everyone that wants the shinies can get them.  If they put awesome maps into a limited edition version I'll probably have to order that.

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 10:02 AM PST
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I'm a PC guy, not a console guy.  But they still fascinate me and I read a lot of the articles about them on the gaming news sites.  Everything that I have gathered is that Sony and Microsoft are very very very proprietary about their "pipelines".  While some of the details escape me, neither company wants to supply the tools, or infrastructure, to make cross platform with PC possible.  Sometimes they also claimed it was due to inequality between controller and mouse/keyboard.

2010: "Microsoft scrapped plans to allow PC and Xbox 360 gamers to play shooters like Unreal Tournament 3 and Gears of War online together because during tests "console players got destroyed every time". That's according to Rahul Sood, founder of luxury computer designer Voodoo PC and CTO of gaming at Hewlett-Packard."

2013: "Corporate Vice President of Microsoft Studios Phil Spencer is open to the idea of cross platform play between the Xbox One and PCs. Spencer pointed to 2007’s Shadowrun, an online FPS that featured cross-platform play between the Xbox 360 and PC. Spencer admits that the cross-platform experiment didn’t go very well, but that he learned a lot from the experience."

Shadowrun was the only test I am aware of and MS refused to go beyond that test due to the results.  

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 10:32 AM PST
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FFXI was not only cross-platform xbox and pc, but xbox, pc, ps2, and ps3. Square Enix hosted and maintained the servers, making it easy for them to make it cross-platform. Microsoft chose not to allow FFXIV to share servers in order to protect the integrity (security) of Xbox Live and for other internal reasons. The breach on PSN probably had a little to do with it.

Zenimax probably just doesn't want to put in the work it takes to host a server that is compliant with both PSN and Xbox Live, which is a shame. It is real nice to be able to play FFXIV on both PS3 and PC - even though it looks like crap on PS3. Will be nice on PS4 though, I'm sure.

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 12:07 PM PST
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All I can say is DC Universe Online is awesome looking/running on PS4.. they upped the graphics big time. I can't wait to see how FFXIV runs on it.

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 12:50 PM PST
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FFXI was 2002 release, before Shadowrun.  Shadowrun was the defining moment for MS where they opted out of doing cross platforms.  Whatever happened internally over there it was really bad in their opinion.  They tested with some other games too and also had a bad experience.

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 01:24 PM PST
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PC, have no interest in console games. My partner has CP and can only use one hand. Until they come up with a true joystick for consoles, we don't even consider them.  Besides the graphics so far are better on the PC than on the consoles. Will have to see how XB1 and PS4 measure up I guess.

 

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 01:27 PM PST
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FFXIV is both PS3, PS4, and PC and its working quite well if you ask me.

 

Edit: Meant soon to be PS4... beta is out later this year but it still uses the same servers as PS3 and PC versions.



» Edited on: 2013-11-16 14:09:36

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 02:41 PM PST
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Playstation and Xbox will never be friends unfortunately, no matter how cool that would be.

FFXVI has been pretty cool with the action between PC/PS3 players (i enjoy the hud for ps3 way better than cp) and portal was another good cross platform that worked well.

That said I will be getting the CE of ESO for PC to play with my online family, but I will also be getting the normal version for PS4 to play with all my PSN friends (I have copies of all the ESO games for both PC and Console ^^)

 

 

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 03:33 PM PST

Im an old time gamer. I cant get the hang of the console controller so it's gonna be PC with mouse and keyboard here.

 

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 04:16 PM PST

 Yep going PC as well.

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 07:02 PM PST
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PC. MMOs to me just cannot work on consoles. I can't react fast enough, and don't have enough buttons to do everything. Communication is also a pain. PC all the way.

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Replied On: 11/16/2013 at 08:54 PM PST
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Sadly... I can't react fast enough at times on PC anymore either... haha... not to mention I am an avid Linux User and don't run Windows in my house for the most part. One of the reasons I bought the console and it doesn't hurt that I can still use a mouse and keyboard on it if I can't grasp the controller properly.... I don't think it will matter much though as I usually don't raid much anyway.

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Replied On: 11/17/2013 at 07:40 AM PST

In my family, we'll get it on PC. In part, it's a financial decision. We already have a gaming-capable computer for Drakhor, Alorra, and me. I didn't make any pre-order yet, but 'tis the season as they say.

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Replied On: 11/17/2013 at 03:50 PM PST

Since it isn't cross platform... has to be PC - that is where the family will be. ;)

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 08:25 AM PST
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There will never be a cross platform game that supports both MS and PS ... not because of tech restrictions like some have claimed but because MS does not allow it period and not to "protect" anything other than the fact that they wont let it happen.

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 11:36 AM PST
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I'm actually relieved that it won't be cross-platform. That was a big concern of mine in regards to stability.

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 11:47 AM PST
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To play in Gaiscioch you must be on PC/MAC. We will not be supporting the console versions.

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 12:20 PM PST

FFXVI isn't a FPS style game is it?  Never played so I don't know.  Shadowrun was an FPS and the consoles even had a slight autoaim built in to account for the precision of a mouse.  Console players still got destroyed and the game flopped. 

I had read somewhere that MS is also very particular about access to their servers and that them and Sony weren't really upto transmitting date between each other's consoles.  If I can find the article when I get home I'll try and post it.  I think it was in an xbox magazine though.

So far for myself though I am leaning towards PC.  Depending on how it does though I might look at it on the X1.

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 01:06 PM PST
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I'm getting it on pc, but later. Like way later!

I will never, Never, NEVER going to prepurchase anything again since Space Marine. They removed the cool coop in the story system and added a filthy KoTH mode at the very last second. >:(

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 07:58 PM PST
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Even though I have consoles, TESO will only be on the PC.  Can't play with the Family unless you have PC/Mac.  No-brainer for me.

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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 07:03 AM PST
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Amazon is claiming the release date is December 31 on their pre-order. Has Bethesda actually announced a release date yet?

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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 01:38 PM PST
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I haven't heard anything, and I read most everything posted about ESO. Fog might know more about a release date, maybe he's read it, maybe he's been told. If he's been told, I doubt he'd be allowed to tell us yet.

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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 02:09 PM PST
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@storm: Gamestop and Amazon and most gaming merchants will use the last day of the year as a release date if the current release date is a year. So if a game is being released Spring 2014 they will put Dec 31st 2014 because thats the  last possible date that it will be released in 2014. If it has a solid release date it will say something like 11-11-11 (aka Skyrim Launch). Right now we have a soft release date of Spring 2014. However remember there have been several games such as Watch_Dogs, Two Worlds, Deus Ex, that all had release dates set and then had several months and sometimes years added to their release date before they were finally released. Until it's got a solid date consider it a Possible Release in that range. More often than not when it's a range it gets pushed back.

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Replied On: 11/20/2013 at 09:15 AM PST
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I'm going to go with the PC version and will preorder it when release comes closer. I'm holding out to see if they release a collectors edition and what goodies it has :D

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Replied On: 01/17/2014 at 02:52 AM PST
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I am going to hold out till collectors edition is out, possibly try to get it on steam if it launches on steam when/if they do open beta and announce official pricing. so what I am waiting for is a real price range and collectors edition or Digital Deluxe Edition.

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Replied On: 01/17/2014 at 06:24 AM PST

I wish it was cross platform myself its not as complicated as they are trying to make it..  As for the reason why Xbox didn't get FFXIV is Microsoft doesn't like cross platform. it had nothing really to do with security it was greed. FFXIV was going to be on Xbox also but the problem was that Microsoft wanted to put it on there  premium  membership which  SE basically said no because that would mean they would have to discount the  sub to compensate for Microsoft greed. Basically it boiled down to Microsoft wanting to cut into SE profits which is typical of them.

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Replied On: 01/17/2014 at 08:44 AM PST

I have posted elsewhere that I honestly felt uncomfortable when I saw ESO would be cross-platform.  I was concerned it would be tuned to the difficulty of DCUO or the combat reactivity of FFXI, or that it would be set up with yearly "expansions" that would have fit better as patches, but based on all the videos I have seen and reviews I have read, I am confident that I could go years playing this game and forget that somewhere someone is playing it on a X-one.  I am a PC man, I love the puzzles and difficulty you find in PC games, and I love the neurotic level of detail PC games tend to have over console games meant to hold your attention "until the next big thing comes out".  Not bashing Consoles at all, but it is a business model of the past 3 generations not to become overly invested in a single game, but instead a franchise, that way you can release bi-yearly (or yearly in the case of sports games) games over 1 big project.  I am just a big fan of the 1-big project, and boy is ESO a big boy!

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Replied On: 01/17/2014 at 08:09 PM PST
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Yes PC for me too, I'm sad that Xbox can't play with pc peeps, my husband would probably have liked to play it on console.

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Replied On: 01/24/2014 at 10:45 PM PST

PC. on a side note i can't imagine how playing a MMO on a console would be....at least communicating and all. I can't imagine swapping between a keyboard and a controller constantly.

I've always been a PC gamer so if there's been innovations into consoles then I'm totally unawares ;J

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Replied On: 01/25/2014 at 03:08 PM PST
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PC Collectors edition here.

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Ditto on collector edition for myself and m'man. If I can ever drag him off of Eve Online, that is... =/

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PC for me. :D

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Replied On: 01/30/2014 at 12:16 PM PST

PC for me.  I don't see it being as big on the consoles with having to pay a yearly sub fee and then ESO sub on top of that.  

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PC!!!!!!! Ordered today collectors edition.

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