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Foghladha
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Posted On: 11/18/2013 at 10:03 AM
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Greetings Everyone,

As many of you know our family has gone through quite the trial and tribulation when it comes to figuring out how best to handle our population and these tiny guild sizes. Up till now we've managed to keep rotating players into Rall without issue on a 7 Day window. Well since our announcement of ESO it seems many have come back to join us and also are joining us for the first time to get to know us and membership has boomed.

At this point we have completely filled Rall and there is a waiting list to get in. Unfortunately with the 500 person limit there's no real way we can work around this. We tried the multi-guild setup and it nearly killed our family in Guild Wars 2. We lost over 1,300 members in the first 6 months due to them feeling they could not communicate with the family, or their room was dead, or other frustrations related to that system.

What we have here is a real problem.

  • If we split into 2, we can't communicate across the gap outside of RaidCall. Both rooms will have about 275 active players which is about 225 less than what all of you are used to which would make it seem like it's a dead guild.
  • If we continue squeezing into Rall, there will be a line to get in. Everytime someone comes in, someone must go out. If you lapse on your logging into the website you may be waiting several days before you get back in. New invites will have to wait in line until a new spot is open and more importantly those who visit the website most will show up at the top of the invite list so if you aren't visiting regularly you will be further back in line than someone that visits every day.
  • Additionally: Every time the guild hits the hard cap of 500 it clears all pending invites. Which then makes a whole other wave of irritated people.

Neither of these options i'm comfortable with. Reducing the AFK timer is an idea that's been proposed but that makes me cringe even more. I don't even want a 7 day, I can't imaging making it 5 day. There's no happy answer here and I'm sorry but in the end the family is going to feel the pain for this. Guild Wars 2's guild system, or lack there of, has been detrimental to our success here in Guild Wars 2 and I'm sorry for not being able to figure a better solution out.  

Help me make something happen.

My commitment to Roger's Legacy keeps me trying to find an answer. When we asked for a server by sending mass letters to ArenaNet about it they answered with Sanctum of Rall. I feel in a last ditch effort to get ArenaNet to put their efforts into giving us the tools we need I would like to implore you to assist me in a second letter writing campaign. If our family is to survive and grow in Guild Wars 2 we must take action. So here's the plan.

  1. This week, take some time to write a heartfelt, polite and honest letter to ArenaNet.
  2. Please include the request for: Last Login on the Guild Roster, Cross Guild Communication (Alliance or Custom Chat Channels), and lastly Larger Guild Sizes.
  3. Mail these letters to:

    ArenaNet, LLC.
    3180 139th Ave SE
    5th Floor
    Bellevue, WA 98005

Please remember that it's easier to sell with sugar than vinegar. Be respectful, honorable, kind, and most importantly ask nicely. We need to convince ArenaNet that it's a worthy investment of their time. I personally would spend 100 of my own dollars worth of Gems to get that limit raised to 1,000. This is our only option right now. Things will go bad any way we try to work this, unless we can convince ArenaNet that it is a fight worth fighting. I really don't want to see our community here be punished because it's not profitable to make these updates. Please help me convince them.

Worst Case Scenario:

In the not so distant future there will come a time when we have to decide whether we would rather have several day waiting periods to get a reinvite or invite into the family or if it would just make more sense to go back to the 2 room system and use Gaiscioch na Rall as a internal version of SORC where we can invite at the start of an event and remove after our events end. I don't know how you all feel about this but this might be our only viable option if things don't change soon. If we try the "Activities" room like we did the first time it will alienate and isolate people. We will need to make it where each person has 1 primary Gaiscioch room and then let the commanders group people up for the main family events. We have plenty of room if we split the family in 2 but then the communication barrier hurts us. I don't like any of the situations we have on our plate but I think that would be the least harmful to our community.

 

Deeply concerned,

Benjamin "Foghladha" Foley

Last Edited on: 11/18/2013 at 03:32 PM
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Oldgoat
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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 10:18 AM PST
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Letter will be mailed today.

I would like to begin by thanking you for the hours of pure enjoyment I have had playing both Guildwars and Guildwars 2. I am amazed at the creativity and hard work that your team has put into this world I have played in. I love the story, I love the characters, I love killing the dragon at the end. I also love being with friends and family while I spend time in-game. Thank you for a job well done.

Having said that, I would like to ask for your help. My guild Gaiscioch, on Sanctum of Rall server is having a terrible dilemma. We are full. We have tried a number of work arounds, but the truth is, the limit on guild size has us in dire straits. We’ve tried having multiple guilds, but that separates us and makes it difficult to communicate with half our members. Please help us stay together.

One possibility is to raise or even end the limit on guild members. Another would be to have a “last login” on the guild roster. Cross guild communication (alliance or custom chat channels) would also help resolve our issue.

I understand this may be difficult. I in no way know how much work it would take. But, if it is at all possible, please consider it. I don’t want to lose my guild. As good as you guys are, it’s got to be possible. We killed a dragon, how about helping us stay together?

 



» Edited on: 2013-11-18 10:45:06

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 10:34 AM PST
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Uf, stupid guild caps.  I'll jump out of guild with Mystriss so someone else can join in, or you can give her das boots.  I really only have time to play on Saturday night, and sometimes even then I end up skipping for various reasons; covering sick employees, my computer mod, etc.  Ya know I don't mind running guildless :P 

 

EDIT: Done.  See ya'll on the battlefield *dances off*



» Edited on: 2013-11-18 10:44:42

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Sapheira
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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 11:15 AM PST

Will do. Thank you for keeping us in the loop about this, and I'll make sure myself and hubby send out a letter asap.

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 11:22 AM PST
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Done and done Fog, here's hoping this will help :)

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 12:51 PM PST
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Done.

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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 02:15 PM PST
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My letter should be sent by the end of this week but it will be delivered. The guild limit needs to be changed

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Azenfel
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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 02:38 PM PST
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A question.. the guild limit is account based right? my alts in the guild are not preventing others from joining right? If so I will purge them off the rolls.

 

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 02:57 PM PST
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Yes, Guild size is account based. Alt's don't matter. Only if you use 2 accounts would it matter. We're trying to fit 720 people into a 500 person room.

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Thecoffeeguy
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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 10:32 PM PST

Done.

Put in the mailbox tonight.

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Ragmar
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Replied On: 11/18/2013 at 11:09 PM PST
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I will get one sent.

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Isha
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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 06:03 AM PST
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Done...letter has been written and will be mailed on the way home from work today.

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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 10:54 AM PST
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Letter done and being sent out

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Aemrys
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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 02:19 PM PST
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Letter written and mailed!

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Seanachie
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Replied On: 11/19/2013 at 03:50 PM PST
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I didn't realize size in GW2 was still an issue.  I'll pop out so more current members can join in.  I've been pretty stagnant with game play due to work anyways.  I'll re-request an invite when I have a bit more time I guess.  Fair is Fair 

 

ok...made room for you guys!!  I'll still stay active on the site and pop in to say hi :)



» Edited on: 2013-11-19 16:13:08

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Replied On: 11/20/2013 at 01:56 AM PST

Letter written, will be sent tomorrow when I get to work ( perk of working for USPS lol )

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Replied On: 11/20/2013 at 07:30 AM PST

Dreamtrip and I both wrote letters.  Mailing them out today.

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Clanorton
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Replied On: 11/21/2013 at 03:29 AM PST
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done even though i hardly have time to play any more but alays willing to help    d



» Edited on: 2013-11-21 03:34:40

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Kamia
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Replied On: 11/21/2013 at 08:54 AM PST
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Done.  I have been in GW2 with GSCH since the beginning and still hope Arena Net will do the right things and add alliances and cross chat and want to see this game and all our members continue to have a blast!!

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Borol
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Replied On: 11/21/2013 at 07:57 PM PST

I'll get something wrote up and sent off. Its a shame they can't implement one of the things that made gw1 a hit in my opinion (alliance chat) The other things you mention are just as important to running a guild.

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